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feminist lesbians argue for the abolition of prostitution

We are a group of lesbians in Vancouver who have been active in the women’s movement.  We have noticed the growing trend to support legalization or full decriminalization of prostitution amongst many people concerned for the safety and well-being of prostituted women and men.  While we support the decriminalization of prostituted people, we believe this must be done in the context of prostitution abolition, including the continued criminalization of buyers, sellers, procurers and traffickers.  We are writing this letter to the community of lesbians and queer women in which we live because we believe lesbians and queer women have an interest in supporting women’s sexual autonomy.  Legalizing prostitution is not true solidarity with prostituted women or with the cause of women’s sexual autonomy.  Real solidarity with prostituted women is in the fight for abolition of prostitution and for greater sexual choice for all women.  Here’s why:

 

1. Prostitution enforces compulsory heterosexuality by teaching men that they have the right to access women’s bodies on their terms and to expect prostitution-like behaviour from other women.  Lesbianism, by contrast, can create more sexual autonomy for women by providing an alternative for some women that is also an example to society of sexuality that is not male-controlled.

 

2. Prostitution is connected to other forms of coercive sexuality in that johns and pimps use their power in the form of money, male sexual privilege and/or violence to choose the nature of the sexual encounter – much as men do in rape, battery and incest.  Many prostituted women have survived rape, battery and incest prior to entering prostitution.

 

3. Sexual autonomy for women also requires economic autonomy – prostitution provides neither.

In prostitution, a man has to pay only once to get what he wants, but a woman has to sell many times a day to get what she needs or to meet the expectations of her pimp or the brothel manager.  Outside of prostitution, the condition of women’s work is already often menial, insecure and leaves many women dependent on men and therefore vulnerable to men’s violence, especially women who are racialized, indigenous and/or poor. To use women’s poverty as a reason to legalize prostitution is cynical and hopeless. Real economic equality would not require that women marry, accept sexual harassment, be relegated to low-paid, unsatisfying work or prostitute.

 

4. The rights of gay men must not trump the rights of women. Some “feminists,” such as those at the Simone de Beauvoir Institute, have described the bawdy house laws as harmful because “these same prostitution laws have been used in particular against marginalized communities,” meaning men who owned, operated and patronized gay bars such as Truxx and K.O.X. in Montreal.  As lesbians/queer women, we do not want gay/queer men persecuted, but even more than that, we want gay/queer men to stand up for women’s rights.  We will not give over the right of women to genuine sexual autonomy because decriminalizing prostitution laws will permit more freedom to some gay/queer men to engage in buying and selling other men.  Women’s equality is a right.  Some gay/queer men’s prostitution behaviour is not.

5. The law is rarely used to protect women now, and neither will it be if prostitution is legalized or decriminalized. The police and criminal justice system are likely to treat prostituted women in the situation of legalized prostitution in the same way they treat raped, battered, and prostituted women now: providing little enforcement of rape and assault laws, conducting minimal investigations, and judging next to no convictions against the men committing the violence.  Over the last five years in Vancouver, prostitution has been effectively decriminalized – the police have made very few arrests.  During this period, we have still seen horrific violence, including many women still missing, the case of Bakker who tortured women and the death of Nicole Parisienne in a brothel apartment in Kitsilano.  Lesbians and queer women expect to be able to call on the law to protect us from homophobic and sexist harassment. We should demand the same for women in prostitution, namely that the law is used to stop men from sexually harassing, assaulting, buying and selling women.

 

6. Prostitutes and lesbians/queer women are in some senses co-outsiders to the sexual norms of society.  Names like “dyke”, “slut”, “whore” and “cunt” are used interchangeably against us. But, the responsibility of lesbians and queer women to prostituted women is to demand that all women have sexual autonomy, and therefore not have to engage in prostitution.

 

7. In terms of choice, prostitution is the opposite of lesbianism. Lesbians and queer women want and in many ways are able to choose all kinds of things about our lives: how we dress, who we love, how we have sex. Prostituted women do not have these same kinds of choices.  The choices prostitution offers women are how to be marketable, how to submit to lack of secure income, how to submit to beatings and rape, how to submit to demands for unprotected sex, and how to live with the constant fear of violence and constant surveillance and monitoring of behaviour as happens on the street and in brothels.

 

8. Lesbians know that sexual experience conditions sexual desire. This has been our experience of becoming lesbians and queer women.  We also know that many women who have survived incest, battery, rape and prostitution have chosen to be lesbians and queer as their sexual expression.  We do not want more of our friends and lovers to live with the pain and physical alienation that result from those experiences of abuse.  We want all women to experience autonomy, joy and connection in their sexual experiences.

 

We chose to be lesbians and queer women as an expression of our love for women, our love of being women and our desire for equality.  This choice has been, for us, expansive because it has given us a greater horizon of expectations and opportunities.  The women’s movement as a whole seeks constantly to expand the boundaries for women’s expression and freedom.  Prostitution, by contrast, is a decision made within the most limited of circumstances, namely poverty, insecurity, violence and misogyny. Prostitution can never be liberatory and should not be equated with sexual autonomy or with feminist goals.

 

Legalizing or fully decriminalizing the buying of sex, as the recent Himel decision has the power to do, leaves us all more vulnerable to sexist harassment and constrains our choices and opportunities.  Accepting legalization/full decriminalization of prostitution in Canada is a capitulation to men’s unequal sexuality demands at the expense of women’s sexual autonomy.  Lesbians and queer women should stand in solidarity with women in prostitution for the abolition of prostitution and protection of our collective rights.

 

to contact this group, e-mail les.abolish@gmail.com

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My mom was Edith, my dad was John. I have a brother, who is Shawn. I have many friends and allies and mentors in my life. I'm white, over-educated, under-employed, messy, funny, smart, lesbian, feminist "Not the fun kind", as Andrea Dworkin said. But I, like the feminists I hang with, ARE fun. I play accordion better than I did, and i'm learning the concertina. Slowly.

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  1. Thanks for this. Excellent document I hope will be shared widely.

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  3. This is a shame.
    I absolutely do not want any of this solidarity. Please grow out of the 80s.

    signed,
    a ‘prostituted’ woman.

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  4. I know women who’ve been shattered by sex work. I know women who’ve worked comfortably in it for years–sane, fun, good-hearted women with no more issues than any other women. Queer and not.

    Bring sex work into the light. Give sex workers all the rights of ANY workers. Fight human trafficking and sexual abuse.

    Feminism is about real women’s lives. This effectively slams the door of the women’s movement on women whose lived experience is pathologized here.

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    • “This effectively slams the door of the women’s movement on women whose lived experience is pathologized here”

      don’t see how we have pathologized women here. nor how we may have slammed the door of the women’s movement on women–if you’d care to point out specifics of when in this article we have done these things, perhaps we can then have a conversation about it.

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  5. I am so saddened by this article. Clearly making unfounded claims about “the true nature of things” without recognizing other women’s lived experiences. If the women I knew weren’t as strong, incredible, and intelligent as they are, this article could have the potential to be extremely disempowering. Thank goodness they know better.

    A sensitive, human, nuanced discussion would blow this article out of the water.

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    • We will be happy to have a discussion with you. This piece is of course based on our experiences as front-line feminist anti-violence workers and activists, as well as lesbians. Not sure what you mean by “blow this article out of the water”, though we welcome critique.

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  6. Who is this “group of lesbians”? Can you really be that many? I doubt it. Check Facebook: you are not supported in this. Lesbians, queers, dykes are all speaking up against your narrow-minded, condescending, anti-sex stance. Your analysis is VERY early 80’s, very middle class and very white.

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  8. Working to abolish prostitution is a great thing, easilyriled — there are a LOT of us feminist lesbians who will support this (and we’re EVEN on FACEBOOK!).

    If anyone bashing this idea really does give a damn about the experiences of women who work as prostitutes, read this article (it’s specifically directed at you), then examine your privileged position in light of the slavery she describes.

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  9. Thank you for your courageous voice!

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  10. Exactly what is unfounded in the positions taken in this document? I agree with EasilyRiled: point to something concrete that you take issue with, then back up your own position.

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  11. P.S.
    “Lesbians, queers, dykes are all speaking up against your narrow-minded, condescending, anti-sex stance. Your analysis is VERY early 80′s, very middle class and very white.”
    What in the world do insults and cliches prove. What makes this analysis so middle class given that working class women were involved in formulating it?? What does a time period have to do with the truth of a position? Is it “so sixties” and thus presumably no longer true to say for example that “the military industrial complex” is killing us, and destroying the world? try working on your reasoning skills and then we can debate.

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  12. “Feminism is about real women’s lives. This effectively slams the door of the women’s movement on women whose lived experience is pathologized here.”
    Again can you go further than mouthing cliches here? What is more “about women’s lives” than the ways that women are exploited? Is it pathologizing to say that workers are exploited? Then why is it pathologizing to say that prostitutes are exploited? workers “choose” to labor as well–they’re forced to in order to survive. Is the claim that women are subordinated a pathologizing claim??? please think through what you are saying before mouthing off. Do the writers that much respect.

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  13. Hey Erin, (just looked up your ‘about’ section)
    I hereby commit to make a donation to a Vancouver based progressive local sex-worker led feminist organization, and that, in your name.

    Also, you should read this great blog post: http://anarchalibrary.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-feminists-should-rethink-on-sex.html

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  14. The fight for “greater sexual choice for all women” – all women and all choices! Except to engage in sex work it seems.
    Here are some commentary on your points I really needed to express.

    1. I’m hard pressed to believe that interaction with female sex workers teach men what kind of behaviour to expect from women in general. Besides negative assumptions about what engaging in sex work as a client teaches (to engage with women on their own terms sexually, to learn and practice safer sexual health practices, to connect with their own sexualities outside of heterosexual marriage?), by your logic if most mothers oppose sex work, and most men have mothers, the influence of the significantly larger group of mothers vs sex workers mean that sex workers would be out of business any day now. Which isn’t happening.
    Your statement also blatantly ignores that many sex workers are queer and lesbian. (Sex workers come in all genders and sexualities of course but I’m referencing women since that is particularly your area of concern…)
    Your proposal of lesbianism as a viable alternative to sex work is boggling. Again dismissing the so very many I assure you, queer and lesbian ladies of the night, and the fact that sex work unlike lesbianism is an occupation that pays dividends per hour, you may have also considered that many people are sexually and romantically inclined towards people who are not women and happily so.
    I too want to up the presence of sexualities that are not male-controlled in our society and it strikes me that a fine way to do this is to support the sexual and labour practices of women, to celebrate lesbi-queer sex work practices by acknowledging gay and queer women workers and to further and celebration all the places in sex work where female clients and workers make contact and have relationships.

    2. First, “prostituted women” as a phrase insists that women in sex work essentially and always have no agency and while that is untrue, it is also manages to be offensive and demeaning. As offensive and demeaning as right-wing representatives describing gay relationships and sexualities as “incomplete” or “immature”.
    Secondly, coercion does occur in the sex work industry – the prevalence of which is complexly and tightly tied to the amount of social protection to which sex workers as individuals have access, in a nexus of race, class, age, legal status, perception and presentation of mental and physical ability, sobriety, and multitudes of other factors. Every large industry I know of functions along the same lines. Who is working the bottom-end contracts throughout your city, country and the world? The struggle I see is to bring sex workers into the common protection of workers rights while as activists we support and insist on better and worker-led protections in all industries. If you’re going to resist sex work as an industry, at least do it as an anti-capitalist – don’t leave sex workers rights in the mud because the sex work industry does not manage to be safer, holier or less complicated than every other significant industry.
    As to the last point, many women in sex work have survived sexual assault prior to entering sex work, it’s true. Many women working as teachers, mothers, health educators, contemporary dancers – and so on – are survivors of sexual assault. Sexual assault history is common and may inform the choices that you make but being a sexual assault survivor should not permit other people to invalidate the choices you make, including those you make to support your life, to work through shit, to move on, or whatever. Sexual assault history does not invalidate your choice to become a lesbian, as per your 8th point.

    3. “In prostitution, a man has to pay only once to get what he wants, but a woman has to sell many times a day to get what she needs” – that’s not patriarchy, that’s retail. It worked pretty much the same way when I worked for a popular and unattractive clothing brand present in pretty much any mall in North America, and works the same way in gay sex work, etc.
    Your unwillingness to consider all of the women who work for themselves or for agencies they like or love or don’t mind, is unfair and shows a commitment to stereotyping sex workers while refusing to acknowledge the dynamics of privilege and marginalization that impact those you are claiming to represent. Your unwillingness to acknowledge that the criminalization of sex work that you advocate – “the continued criminalization of buyers, sellers, procurers and traffickers” – creates conditions that increase vulnerability, disallow self protection and create conditions of danger use to demonize sex work.

    4. As a feminist, I will not give women with social capital – legal status, a media outlet, the ability to gather safely and legally in groups to organize and theorize – the right to speak over women they are claiming to represent. I will use whatever power and privilege I have to support sovereignty of representation in my communities and for others as best I can. I will not stop reminding people that while we are fighting to manifest a kind of world we can live in, it is a common and exhausting struggle to have to fight off those who claim to represent us. Ask anyone who is a woman, a person of colour, a survivor of assault, queer, disABLED, trans, poor, crazy, in jail, sick, illegal, on drugs, or ‘complicated’ for other people.
    If you are representing your experience in a part of the sex industry, great. If you’re creating theories based on your neighbours, some books, the news, what someone said in class, what you think you see on the street – put it down already. Listen. People are speaking for themselves and they are not all, or in my communities, mostly agreeing with you. If that doesn’t worry you, you should take a look at what allows you to not acknowledge the diverse women’s voices around you.

    5. It would be great if the law stopped men from sexually harassing and assaulting women, or even provided a decent consequence after the fact that helped reduce the occurrence of harassment or assault. As you say though – it doesn’t. Not only does the law not act to significantly prevent sexist and homophobic assaults, the officers who respond to a report are often sexist and homophobic, and the legal system is such that the ‘best result’ offered is a conviction of assault, moving the aggressor into an unthinkably brutal environment where physical and sexual violence, and intense homophobia, racism and misogyny are matched with medical and nutritional neglect, for life or a period of time before release. While prison justice advocates in and outside prisons work on these issues, and survivor advocates battle for better legal and community supports, we can use our skills and extensive specialized history understanding violence and violence intervention to reduce the vulnerability of women and all sex workers by insisting that workers have a right to work indoors, to choose security, to vet clients thoroughly, to keep data recording client interactions, to report dangerous or harassing behaviour in the sex work place.

    6. For the last time! “That all women have sexual autonomy and therefore not have to engage in prostitution” defines that if women have sexual autonomy, then they as women would not engage in sex work. It is trying to describe facts. Facts that many of the people who are in a position to assert – namely sex workers! – are not in fact asserting! Because it’s wrong! Many many women have sexual autonomy and are choosing to engage in sex work! As a job! For interest! For the love it! Because it’s better than a lot of other jobs out there and totally work-able with complicated schedules, needs, health issues. For pete’s sake, what makes you so sure that so many women want this magical alternative sexual autonomy you offer that does not allow for engaging your body in labour any way you damn well want?

    7. Prostitution is not the opposite of lesbianism by simple fact that many lesbians I know are prostitutes and show no sign of imminent self-implosion. Lesbians, as people, have the ability to choose many things. Apparently the lesbianism that wrote this does not have the choice to publicly give sex workers the agency to choose and speak for themselves about their broad range of experiences and relationships with their jobs
    Personally I really don’t appreciate the fear mongering implicit in sanctimoniously offering that sex work offers women, among other similar options, the chance to learn how to submit to beatings and rape. How dare you use assault to obscure the realities of any situation, to scare people away from considerate analysis, to teach others that beatings and rape are the norm for women who do sex work. Physical and sexual battery is most often perpetrated against women – should we flippantly teach this as well? “The choices being a women offers are how to submit to beatings and rape”. Outrageous. Minimizing and dehumanizing the experience of a group is an old trick and I’m heart-sick that you went there.
    Being indifferent to the conditions of violence is a kind of violence. Perpetuating the stigma that shapes how families and friends react to sex workers, how neighbourhoods perceive and react to sex work, is a kind of violence with real impact for real people.

    8. I appreciate that you have found and made choices that have brought you into a feeling of love for yourself, your partners and friends. You have to realize that other choices will bring other people into that love and understanding for themselves – no?
    This reminds me of close families who are so homophobic they are willing to leave their gay and queer family members out in the cold. They do it as a way of practicing caring, to protect, to act responsibly – because they have self-assurance that their way is the right way. They have the privilege to not be subject to the impact of gay and queer stigma and they use the reality of homophobia to excuse their behaviour, to exclude and perpetuate the conditions they are helping create.

    If your community somehow does not include any significant body of the amazing pro-sex work sex working activist women present in your city, please believe that that is an issue and figure out what you need to do to be safe enough to be included in the dialogue, as workers, as activists invested in hearing what other women fighting for themselves are saying.

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  15. thebewilderness

    “Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Santayana

    There have been many times and places throughout history that prostitution was legal. Never once has it ever been to women’s advantage.
    Neither individually nor collectively.
    Not ever.

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  16. Many excellent points easilyriled.

    Men have proven time and again that they do not respect female bodily autonomy–and there is no monetary charge on this Earth (in exchange for a sexual “service”) that will change mens’ minds.

    Underpinning this notion of legalized prostitution-as a means of celebrating feminism through sexuality-is the idea that we can quantify the value of social progress. Feminism can do (and has done)better than a price sheet on “sex services.”
    Lest we be fooled: prostitution is funded by hush money.

    Good on you for this blog post and hooray for this Vancouver collective.

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  17. “If family members saw that I engaged in behavior that put my physical health at risk, I would expect them to warn me. If my closest friends believed I was in a harmful relationship, I would want them to help me escape it… We will continue to speak the truth (even hard truths) with love (sometimes tough love). But we will not be silent.” Homophobe Tony Perkins on gay relationships. Feel familiar?

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  18. Thanks for your support of abolition of the sex trade, and for seeing that it must be framed as a human rights issue, not a labour issue.

    I am proud to named as an exited prostituted woman – for that what was I was, the term sex worker had nothing to do with me or millions of prostituted women and girls. It is term that profiteers of the sex trade love and want liberals and leftists to use – any term that is embedded in the sex trade should be avoided and criticised.

    Prostitution is not work, and the sex trade will never allow the prostituted to be full humans, certainly not to have serious worker’s rights.
    This would mean that all the prostituted, not just the highly privileged “hobby” prostitutes – would have the right to turn away any punter without any consequences of violence, would have the right to earn enough without having to do sadistic sex. That would a basis start – the ability to be see as a human not sexual goods.

    But, that is a rarity in most aspects of the sex trade – the people who promote sex work live in an Alice Through the Looking-Glass world, where up is down, and violence is choice.
    In their world, the rare woman who freely has chosen prostitution – without any history of prior abuse, without any punter abuses her mentally, physically or sexually, without using alcohol, drink or other methods to deaden the constant invasion of her body, with that she can leave prostitution without threats of violence or brainwashing to get her back again.
    Then maybe she can call herself a sex worker. But if she is that privilege – she is privileged enough to have sex with strangers without being inside the sex trade. For her privilege is betraying the millions of women and girls that are trapped inside the sex trade.

    For the majority of prostituted women and girls, no amount of worker’s rights will prevent the violence and degradation.
    For to be a prostitute is to made into sexual goods that must be able to re-enact any and all porn fantasy that profiteers promote and punters want.
    In that environment – rape is the norm, and it is framed as entertainment, framed as sexual freedom and empowering for the prostitute. Physical violence is the norm – but named as kink or s/m is ok then. Mental violence is the norm – but if the prostitute rebel against the brainwashing of the sex trade, name her as weak, as damaged before she became a prostitute, as some kind of religious prude – then her words are dismissed.

    So with so-called worker’s rights, the prostitute has no protection from rape, sexual torture and the in-eventual murders.

    The only way forward is to framed as human rights – and to see the violence and hate is the choice of profiteers and punters to make the prostituted class sub-humans
    Until we focus on the profiteers and punters, there is no way forward. The less we can do is stop these men having the right to buy and sell the prostituted class.

    That is the less – the aim must be abolition, if we really believe in giving back dignity and human rights to the prostituted.

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  19. It’s hard for me to understand how a minority of happy privileged “sex worker” women would rather leave the majority of prostituted women enslaved than allow any criticism of the global sex trade industry. Does the convenience you see for yourself in “legal” prostitution really count for more than all the women that are already hurt by prostitution and the many more that would be coerced and abused if it were “legal”?

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    • Hey Pg,
      If you start looking through widely available stats offered by our very own Stats Can, this is the picture criminalization of sex work paints: in 2006, 94.7% of all prostitution related charges were for communicating for the purposes of prostitution (Statistics Canada, 2007). Out of these charges, the vast majority goes towards women (like in the 90%). Then, if you read the actual Himel judgment instead of hating on it without looking at it closely, this is what you can find:

      While the laws relating to sex work are in themselves discriminatory,
      the manner in which they are enforced further violates the equality
      rights of women. Sex workers who live in poverty are the most
      susceptible to criminalization and bear the brunt of the current legal
      framework. The majority of sex workers who are arrested work on the
      streets. These women are the most likely to live in poverty, and tend
      to receive harsher sentences than men who are similarly charged.

      Although street sex work is the source of almost all charges, it
      represents only a fraction of sex work (some estimates put it at 20%)
      (PIVOT, 2006; Fran Shaver, Traditional Data Distort Our View of
      Prostitution, 1996. Available online at:
      http://www.walnet.org/csis/papers/shaver-distort.html).

      Many sex workers believe that police enforcement is selective and largely in
      response to community complaints in order to reduce sex worker
      visibility and to relocate them elsewhere (PIVOT, 2006).

      Charges for sex work offences have increased significantly across the
      country since the late 1990s. (in 2009) 92% of sex work-related charges are for communicating to buy or sell the services of a sex worker. Although
      women form less than half of those involved in sex work (10-15% of sex
      workers are male, and most clients are men), they are more likely to
      be charged than men. Further, women convicted of communicating tend
      to be sentenced more severely than men. In 1993-94, almost 40% of
      women were given a prison sentence, compared with only 3% of men.
      This trend continued when probation was ordered – women received, on
      average, probation terms that were twice as long as men. (Duchesne,
      1997)”

      So who are you protecting again?

      We are not a bunch of happy hookers (although some of us are), we are people who are concerned in how the criminalization of sex work is only penalizing the most vulnerable women. We are LISTENING to what our sisters are saying.

      And NO ONE wants to make it easy for pimps! Look at the Criminal Code of Canada, you’ll find a bunch of tools to deal with them: Assault, sexual assault, kidnapping, extortion, etc.

      Because if again, you take a look at stats WIDELY available, you will see that the little 6-8% of criminal charges left to be handed (bawdy house and living on the avails) is also mostly targeting women working out of their own homes or personel they may have hired for their own security.

      In the words of Ann Jordan, of the International Human Rights Law Group (US), “To those who feel their moral hackles rising at the prospect [of legalizing prostitution]: “We don’t support a woman’s right to choose because we think abortion is a great thing, but because we believe fundamentally that women should have control over their own reproductive capacity. The same argument can be made for prostitution. Women who decide for whatever reason (*LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT FEEDING YOUR KID OR FEEDING YOUR KID BECAUSE YOU ARE POOR) to sell sex should have the right to control their own body-and should be assured of basic protection on the job. As with abortions, we can dream of a day when sex work is safe, legal, and rare.”

      For some people sex work is a site of great empowerment, exploration and fun. Let’s work towards making sure these sex workers are the ones who are working. the steps to that are the ones of social justice: More housing, less feminized poverty, more treatment centers, more job opportunities, more accessible education, more childcare, more food security, etc.

      In the mean time, let’s FIGHT to make sure women are not thrown in jail every two weeks. Visit a jail dear, you’ll see that there are no pimps in there, just the gals you are ‘protecting’.

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      • Next response, what sex workers think of the Swedish model..

        Hint: Not good.

        Imagine how you would feel if, let’s say, straight men tried to ‘help’ and ‘protect’ you but without consulting you, inviting you to the table, painted ALL of you as victims (which doesn’t serve anyone, not even the exploited ones), silenced you, etc.

        Ya, that’s how it feels.

  20. #6: “Your analysis is VERY early 80′s, very middle class and very white.”

    Wow. Take a quick second to think about just who is in prostitution, what those women and girls look like, and which of these people are most at risk for the absolutely commonplace violence of/within prostitution. Not so middle class and white, yeah?

    And I don’t think I need to delve much into hilarity that is “if an idea came from a different decade, it’s bad”. What?

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